The Government does something patiently illegal, and the Citizens take the blame. Yeah, I’m not Eric Holder’s Whipping Boy, so don’t look at me sideways because his Agency committed crimes which would land anyone else in the hole for the rest of their lives. But of course, we all saw this coming.
What we want to see, is Eric Holder and a whole mess of ATF Chiefs get charged appropriately for the crimes they have committed. The penalty for a Straw Sale is 10 years for each gun.
Straw Purchase
A straw purchase is any purchase where a person purchases a firearm for another person who is not eligible to purchase it. Although it usually refers to the purchase of illegal firearms, the term can refer to almost anything bought or sold illegally.In the United States, straw purchases are a felony violation of the Gun Control Act of 1968 for both the straw purchaser (who can also be charged with lying on Federal Form 4473) and the ultimate possessor.
A Firearms Transaction Record, or Federal Form 4473, is a United States government form that must be filled out when a person buys a firearm from a Federal Firearm License holder (such as a gun store). For knowingly making any false statement or representation on Federal Form 4473, the penalty is 10 years.
The ATF did more than just this. They allowed straw sales against Dealers objections. Then they went so far as to even use Tax Payer Dollars to buy even more guns to give to the Bad Guys. Okay, wait, the line between the good guys and bad guys there is really thin and vague. What the ATF did is horrendous beyond measure. They broke the trust that was placed on them, broke the faith the American People put on them and this is unforgivable. The entire agency needs to be Disbanded from the top down.
Pointing fingers at the American Gun Owner is remarkably asinine. The Democrats solution is to lay down more laws and restrictions? Anyone with more than a pair of synapses can see the truth of this… The people they have to enforce the gun laws are the ones doing their damnedest to break those laws!
1. Prosecute those that allowed this to happen, Eric Holder first and foremost.
2. Abolish the BATFE completely.
3. Wipe every – EVERY – Gun Law off the books nation wide. Gun Laws should be a STATE issue. Interstate Commerce is too thin a reason for Federal Regulation. Some states have allowed Gay Marriage, yet we do not require those couples to never leave the state in which they are married… but they could move. There’s an interstate issue now. Does this make it a Federal one? No. It’s still a State issue. I don’t need a Federal Driver’s License. Yet I can drive in every state. All Gun laws should be a State Issue. The Feds need to drop it. Every gun law on the Federal books should be ERASED. EVERY ONE OF THEM.
I totally concur. The entire set of federal gun laws, from GCA34 forward, has been to disarm the citizens, completely contrary to the intent and understanding of the founding fathers, as laid down in the Bill of Rights.
Hah! You think logic will have anything at all to do with this?
They’re going to fire their JBT’s and give up some power?
Madness. I mean, we are talking about the same gubbmint that gave the Dept. of Ed. its own SWAT team.
Thank you Ogre, if only that could happen…I can only hope and pray…
Wow. Those clowns are starting to sound more and more like some deeply clever satire of themselves, Poe’s Law anyone? “The government screwed up and got people killed, therefore we need more gun control laws” sounds like something out of The Onion.
Ogre, you wrote: “What the ATF did is horrendous beyond measure. They broke the trust that was placed on them, broke the faith the American People put on them and this is unforgivable.”
I missed the part where any of us actually trusted the BATFE.
Well said sir! I wholeheartedly agree.
It was obvious that the BATF was intentionally shuttling American civilian firearms into Mexico for the purpose of generating “proof” that more gun laws are needed. It was a dirty op from a dirty agency, guided by a dirty administration. This type of nasty stunt is SOP.
Anyone but the willfully ignorant can figure out the Cartels would rather buy 80euro AKMs in Columbia than 1200dollar semi-auto ARs from the US via a trickle of puppet buyers. The whole issue was distilled BS.
CSGV just posted a link of Holder’s testimony to congress. “we must be careful not to lose sight of the critical problem that this flawed investigation has highlighted: We are losing the battle to stop the flow of illegal guns to Mexico.”
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? The man whose agencies SMUGGLED thousands of guns to mexico, in VIOLATION of numerous laws, is still pretending that this was an investigation, and that congress making laws is the solution.
Despite the fact that this information is all over the internet, has been reported on by CBS, and despite whatever hand Issa has yet to play. Maybe Holder has some plans for the confidential sources. I mean, with all the evidence, how stupid could Holder be? Is he enough of a true believer to charge forward with this idiocy in order to draw attention away from Obama?
I’m with the notion of wiping out all the gun laws, but I do disagree about turning the issue over to the states. The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed to us at the Federal level and it should stay at that level. I don’t think the states should be allowed any say in firearms matters because of the 2nd and 10th amendments. (And also because I want a silencer and MN says they’re illegal. piss on that noise)
You have a good point, Sir.
The Feds have the legal authority to prohibit State laws which violate the Second Amendment.
The States have the legal authority to pass gun laws which do not violate the Second Amendment. The most common of that sort are typically restrictions on when and where sport/target shooting is allowed (eg, “no shooting within 100yards of an occupied building, without the permission of the owner”).