Okay, now the guy says that he feels that the recoil is harsher than other .308 weapons. Then he also says that gun was designed for recoil management in mind. “Recoiled more than any of them…” That’s a fail. The gun was also very poor in accuracy. The parts are banging against each other… that can’t be consistent. The cocking handle causes jams… “it’s a training issue”? Really? That’s a crap design and don’t make an excuse for it. That gun is just a POS. Seriously, if that was my gun, I’d be pissed and I’d want my money back.
Guys, for twice the price of the Crusader Broadsword, it’s less than half the gun. The Broadsword feels like you are shooting a 5.56mm gun. Because it really is designed with recoil management in mind. And it’s a tack driver, because we wanted it to be accurate. The Broadsword shoots groups that make you look like a Ninja Warlock Sniper. At 100 yards, we were shooting 1 hole groups. If you want a good .308 Battle Rifle… there can be only one: The Crusader Broadsword.
Heavy Metal: LWRC REPR
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Andrew does good reviews. I saw this and was pretty disappointed with LWRC. I like their Piston ARs and consider them a good alternative to HK’s 416. The REPR seems to need more testing done to it to perfect it. I like the idea, but this does appear to fail on multiple levels.
+1 on Andrew does good reviews. Should send him a Crusader gun
I’d like to. One day, we will. And to GunBlast and SWAT. We’re working on that.
I’m probably over biased but I’ve often thought that too much effort has been spent into designing around the gas impingement system of the AR platform in an effort to make it a piston system and scavenge the existing AR parts than it would have been better to start with a blank sheet of paper if you wanted a piston set up.
One of our very wealthy customers at the shop has one. People hate on what they cant afford. Its funny you posted this, because I literally shot about eighty rounds through one this morning.
Guess what? The recoil on a .308 is going to feel more or less like the recoil on any other .308. Unsurprisingly, the REPR feels just like you’re shooting a .308. This is not a bad thing: You can still shoot it just fine if you have a modicum of strength in your body and know how to use bone support and technique over muscling the weapon in.
I haven’t exhaustively tested one of these rifles, but I tend to disbeleave most of the hype about this gun. Way, way more people say they own one than exist. The internet is hating on this gun. The example I saw was pretty damn nice.
Did you shoot it side by side with other AR-10 type guns? I can understand what your saying about the recoil. What about accuracy? Of course I’ve had emails from guys claiming the REPR to be the best thing on the planet, and of course they have only purchased or even fired one AR-10 type gun in their lives… I’ve also heard from other guys that have several AR-10 type rifles and REPR’s and they are not pleased as they’d like to be considering their level of investment.
If your wealthy customer wants a really good AR type .308 – broker a deal for a Crusader Broadsword and he can buy it through you. You’ll see the difference.
Broadsword = Formula One.
You’re right toadold. If you have the right dimensions to start with and stick tightly to your set tolerances the gas impingement is a good system. Like any other system it has it’s own quirks and short falls. It’s up to the operator to know the system they are shooting.
Moving an impingement weapon to a gas piston just causes accuracy issues.
Which is one of the reasons the AR platform is renowned for accuracy and Op Rod guns tend to fall short. It takes a lot of work to make an Op Rod gun really accurate. Remember the HK PSG-1? The first really accurate semi auto op rod sniper rifle… 10 grand. And that was in 1980’s dollars. Even now, some op rod sniper rifles out there… such as the Crazy Horse… very expensive, a lot of work… and they still don’t quite match an AR type.
Wasn’t the PSG1 a roller delayed blowback gun?
Whoa now…. easy on the Crazy Horse. 😉
I do like the gas impigmnent system. Its very simple. Less moving parts. Not very fun to clean, but despite peoples oppinions, if you keep it well lubricated, gas impgment rifles are in fact very reliable.
I own a HK91 style rifle, as well as an FN FAL clone, and have experence with a wide variety of .308 rifles. The REPR kicked about as hard as all of them. It doesnt really matter how well you design a rifle. The two biggest things that control felt recoil are weight and a straight line layout.
The REPRs accuarcy was good; The customer was zeroing his iron sights and knew what he was doing. I put everything into one big ragged hole, and then the boss yelled at me for shooting guns instead of doing the other things he pays me to.
Personally, my go to .308 rifle is a DS Arms FN-FAL. It does everything those other rifles will do, and it will do it continously. It is the most boring rifle I have ever owned; Nothing ever goes wrong, there are never any malfunctions. It goes bang every time I pull the trigger and seems to be about as indefferent as a rilfe can be. Sure, it might be a little less accurate out at 400 or 500 yards…But at that range you need a bolt gun, not an autoloader.
400-500 yds…you don’t need a bolt action. Our carbine length Broadswords are getting extremely good accuracy at those ranges. Rifle length…even better.
I’ve only seen a few bolt actions that could match Nightcrawler’s Broadsword.
Oh yeah my REPR has a 16 in barrel and still holds it’s own against the 20 in model.
There needs to be a legit comparison between REPR and Broadswords. I tried to post some of the positive things here but that post was deleted, what a surprise since their pushing the Broadswords here. I am sure this will be too but no surprise if you can’t make a better product than trash the competitions product!
Never saw any other post. Spam filter might have caught it. The name “Me” you posted under… got to expect that. Not exactly original. Harris Publications is going to be reviewing the Broadsword very soon.
I’ll soon be the owner of a LWRC REPR AR-10. (My purchase was delayed 3 days) I decided to get an AR-10 and turned to Lonestar Gun Gallery and Gear in Weatherford, Tx to show me the ropes, as I am not as experienced in assault rifles as other arms. The proof was in the pudding for the REPR for me. I was allowed to shoot 20 rounds through 5 different AR-10’s to help me decide and although I wasn’t expecting to spend $3,900.00 on a bare rifle, I thought the performance of the REPR compared to the others would fill the price gap. Unfortunately the Broadsword wasn’t on the menu that day and now I’m a little worried about my not shopping around and lack of reading up on the different weapons. The reason for my purchasing of this weapon is for Texas heli hog hunting.
Hopefully my choice will be one that won’t be regretted.
See, at least you tried your available options… So you made a good choice. You will like it.
I own a 16 REPR and have shot other AR 10’s. I let everyone shoot it and their response has been nothing but great. I use an EOTECH flip in 3X magnifier and we shoot targets accuarately at 700 yards. The funny thing is its rated to 600 yards. I find this weapon elite on many levels. The recoil is what it is but if your scared of it then you are. I let 90 lbs women shoot and i dont hear any complaints, just “can I keep shooting?”. I like it so much i’m gonna buy the 20 upper with a leupold mark 4 next so I have all bases covered. The weapon cleans super easy too. Great job LWRC!!!