I have been asked which of the top three GOP frontrunners I favor. Hmmm… This is kinda like asking “Which gun would you rather shoot yourself in the leg with?”
Herman Cain: Looks pretty good, sounds pretty good, and I was even fond of his Pizza chain. I like a good deal of what he’s talking about and agree with a lot. However, his 999 Tax Plan leaves me feeling rather uneasy. The more I learn about Cain, the more I like him. He is not the slick, seasoned politician like the others… and to me, that’s a plus. He says what he thinks, not what he thinks you want to hear. He is the most genuine of the bunch and he is freaking out the Leftistas. Janeane Garofalo says that if you support Cain, then you are a Racist. Unlike supporting Obama, which isn’t, but opposing Obama is. Thank heavens Madama Garafalo keeps this straight for us… Sheesh. I get the feeling that the Liberal Democrats are the only ones who are actually Racist. They are the ones that keep bringing it up. Race has nothing to do for it. I vote for ideas, for vision, for leadership. Color has nothing to do with it.
Rick Perry: At first, I really liked Rick. Pro Gun… packed a gun and killed a Coyote with it while he was jogging. Nicely done! But then like that hot girl with the long black hair you dated in College, the more you learned about her, the less you liked her. It got to the point with Rick that I flat out don’t like him anymore at all and I don’t trust him. If Rick gets the Nomination… it would be a very sad day. The more he talks, the more he turns me and others off. I don’t think he’s electable. His statements come off as being ill-suited for a President. He has a lot of bad history behind him and I think a Rick Perry nomination will mean a second term for Obama. Perry is at best a “Blue Dog Democrat” with an “R” by his name.
Mitt Romney: Talk about a guy with Baggage. His Romney Care is one. Being Mormon is another. Both are huge issues. One is justified. Romney Care is going to continue to be a problem for him no matter what happens. But “The Black Spot” for Mitt is his membership in the LDS Church… He’s offended many Mormons by trying to distance himself from the faith. Then there are those that simply hate Mormons out of sheer bigotry – which shouldn’t be given any airtime, but the media loves it because it prevents the GOP from solidifying Romney as a Candidate. Then Rick Perry’s man goes and bashes Mormons and Rick supports him? Far from Presidential stuff, Rick. Freedom of Religion? His faith shouldn’t be anyone’s business. Rick Perry, Mike Huckabee, The Maverick McCain’s Mom… all Rabid Anti-Mormons… and never mind all the minions of hate that will do nothing but continue to attack Mitt and the Mormons from all sides. It would be great if Mitt wasn’t Mormon! I’d rather not have to talk about it! I don’t need the negative attention on my Faith. Because, yes, it is Negative. Maybe I’m a little sensitive, but Mine is the only Religion in the USA that was under a Death Order from a State’s Governor. Id rather us keep a lower profile. Then there is the fact that Mitt is just a straight up Dillweed. I don’t like him. Not as a person, not as a candidate. But there is a good point. The upshot to Mitt is that his Financial Experiences is there and it would be truly helpful to the nation at this time. Romney’s skills in debate have become very sharp and he’s doing very well… he looks, sounds, and acts like Presidential Material.
When it comes to picking the Right Man for the Job – and not just a Candidate – it is down to Cain or Romney now. Other possibles have backed out and losing steam. Cain or Romney would be a good choice. It’s a coin toss at this time, but if I had to pick one right now, at this very moment… I’m going to have to hold my nose and give the nod to Romney. Haters are going to hate and it’s about hiring the man that can do the job, not picking someone that the Wacko Liberal Left is going to hate the least.
Personally, I’m a fan of “Crazy Uncle Ron”.
The PROBLEM, at this point in our history, is that the federal government has grown entirely too big and bold, and it’s brought state governments along for the ride.
Paul is the only one with a serious plan to remedy that, and, I believe, is the only one who really WANTS to.
Now, Romney has certainly proved that he can MANAGE a lumbering behemoth of a government, but that’s not what we need right now.
Paul/Johnson is the best possible ticket. Paul gets a term or two (depending upon his health), then the younger Johnson runs and carries on for another eight years. 12-16 years of Presidents who actually understand the Constitution could turn so much around…
Here’s why I’m voting for Cain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NknF4n44OCg
But seriously, I’m writing in for Paul as well. I’d say he’s a good choice if you’re rightfully leery of the 9-9-9 plan. http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/17/ron-paul-announces-ambitious-%E2%80%98plan-to-restore-america%E2%80%99/
The most surprising development, Limbaugh supports the bill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6vGk1wdJKA
You’re overlooking the 800 pound gorilla in Mitt’s baggage. He is more anti-2nd then all the bradys combined. Look at his record in MA. We are still suffering here from the bans and regulations enacted by HIS attorney general during his reign…er term. Being a staunch 2A supporter, I would think that you would at least address this during your posts. Look in Webster’s under Rino and you will surely see his photo.
You have a point!
The main current of “progressive” thought IS racist. Insistently racist. They are adamant that true color blindness is racism and that actual equal treatment is racist.
You can literally be to the left of the Red Army Faction, but if you reject their insane racist declarations you’re denounced as a right-wing hate-monger.
This mad racist thought comes directly from the universities and the mouths of the self-hating snots they create.
The main body of the Left in North America is fatally infected with psychopathic racial hate. They can not be dissuaded from their race stance. Any attempt to do so is met with furious verbal attacks.
Cain I don’t like for a few reasons. He was a chairman of one of the 12 Federal Reserve banks, the Bank of Kansas City, during the credit boom, a boom which helped lay down the foundation for the economic problems today. Not the sole reason, but with the Fed screwing around with money supplies, artificially lower interests, etc., I’m betting he’ll side with the Fed every time.
He supported TARP in 2008, and as far as I know, still thinks it’s was a good idea, even if he didn’t care for the details.
Recently, he came out publicly against an external audit of the Fed, saying something how they had enough internal audits and we the people shouldn’t poke our noses in places where they weren’t wanted. This was even after Bloomberg News broke the story about illegal foreign bailouts by the Fed. In fact, he suggested having a PR person explain to those curious about how the Fed Reserve works! Talk about trying to pull a fast one, an audit is substantially different than a PR dog-and-pony show, and as a former CEO, he knows the difference.
Cain, if elected, will run the Republican side of the same failed economic policies pursued by the Obama administration, centered around pleasing Wall Street and the big banks.
He’s another big bank casino player, willing to it all ride on #12, as long as the taxpayers are footing the bill.
I don’t like Perry because all the reasons you outlined, plus his stance on immigration I’m opposed to flat out.
“Now, Romney has certainly proved that he can MANAGE a lumbering behemoth of a government, but that’s not what we need right now.”
Dead on, Sergeant Mac, dead on.
Well done, thanks for making this post so I didn’t have to. You covered all the bases perfectly. The Fed needs an audit, along with Fort Knox.
Also, Romney’s religion is a non-factor. Catholicism is my everyday carry religion of choice. LDS is my backup as soon as gay priests are allowed. (No homophobe flames please. Homosexuality is a sin in the Catholic Faith, deal with it. No, I don’t care if you were born that way. I was born to fornicate, but that doesn’t mean I get to do it without committing the same sin which carries the same consequence, no less, no worse, breaking the same commandment which is Adultery. It’s a choice. I break the rules at my own peril, so allow me my freedom of religion.)
I am also a Paul supporter, BUT I didn’t like his statement about bailing out the home-owners instead of the Bankers. NOBODY should be bailed out. Bankruptcy is part of how Capitalism and the free market works.
That being said, if it comes down to Obama vs X, X gets my vote.
The TOTUS must go at all costs.
You could always write in Ron Paul.
Good hell, no.
Ypu left out the candidate that has trounce all other in many straw pols. The Only candidate to renounce the congressional healthcare package. Do some research in on Ron Paul. He’s all for small government, more freedom, and a return of states rights.
Ron Paul has a lot of good ideas, and some very bad ones. He has become a Punchline. He is so very unelectable its hilarious he’s taken seriously by so many on the internet… But no where else.
Almost correct IMHO. Exactly correct in your opinion.
Only “Bad ideas” to those who defend the status quo… interventionism abroad, hasn’t worked out so well and cost us endlessly, but hey, at least after all the money and lives of American soldiers, afghanistan sides with packistan against us, Iraq is siding with Iran, and has asked us to leave (sorry Obama you didn’t pull them out!) Lybia announced that their new ‘democratic’ regime will be based on Sharia, as is Egypt…and we are NO more safe as a nation then before our meddling.
Anyone BUT Dr. Paul will continue the same failed foreign policy, same large bureaucracy that’s bankrupted us… They’re may not be enough citizens left who value freedom and the principles of the constitution, *sigh* but thats where I’ll side every time. and when you say “on the internet” you of course mean just average citizens from all walks of life, who donate endlessly because one man is willing to say what resonates with them when no one else will. I remember a local candidate who recently dared to stand for ideas because they were RIGHT not because his affiliation would get him elected… c’mon Ogre
Here’s my problem with Cain: Under his tax plan, cocaine and hookers become a tax shelter (you only pay income tax, then the money disappears), while food purchases are double taxed (once as income, once at the sale). This does not give you a reason to support the economy.
On the corporate level, they pay once when they make money, and only pay again if they buy something. If they pocket that money and don’t hire anyone, they save money. That right there tells you that the guy has not thought this through.
I have no clue what you mean about cocaine and hookers as a tax shelter.
So, here in the land of 10,000 taxes (MN) I would pay 16% tax on my double taxed food vs 23% on my gross earnings? I’ll take door number one please. Or are you the bottom 49% and pissed because you will have to pay your fair share like everyone else?
Cry me a river.
And the corporate level will only pay taxes if they buy something? Are you frigging seriouse? Have you ever heard of inventory???
Jeebus, no wonder this country is going to default and the economy will collapse. We are toast and we deserve it.
So I was wrong. This replaces the current sales tax system AND lowers your personal income tax. This is better than what I “heard” on the radio.
The Bad: Each section can be dicked with (raised?) by future congresses, especially the business tax because of class warfare and envey from the welfare state and unions. The key is that everybody plays and everybody pays including the bottom 49% who pay nothing. They will have to budget and save, just like the rest of us. This is a good thing, but they won’t relize it until after their first couple anual tax cycles. They will likely get better paying jobs in that time or their bosses will give them a raise to keep them since it will become an “employee’s” market with the dramatic decrease in unemployment. This won’t stop the coming economic collapse. Every country in the world can’t help us pay off our debt. We still have to default.
The Good: It is transparant because when EVERYBODY can plainly see what they are being taxed, unlike payroll tax, it holds politicians accountable if they dare raise it at any level. The key is that everybody plays and everybody pays. This is a HUGE boon for small business who are the major engine for ecoomic growth since they won’t be penalized for capital investment. This is a huge job creator. This can’t be understated. Everybody from middle class down will learn to save. The rich will either reinvest or spend for pleasure, which creates demand for more products which causes more business growth which creates more jobs. The two biggest factors for economic growth are small business growth and savings. The more peopele save, the more banks can lend. It is a “credit creation” machine.
More Bad: Those that make $50K a year or less will hate it because no more refund or stimulus from the upper 51%. If our politicians don’t allow us to default and continue to kick the can down the road without real spending cuts, this all falls apart. Being Cain is a former Fed guy, kicking the can down the road and allowing more Fed abuse is likely without that audit.
More Good: This effectively ends wealth redistribution via tax code.
At this time, I don’t accept or reject the plan, it is better than what we have now but won’t do jack shit without a controlled default, and audit of the Fed, massive spending cuts including Defense, end the Nation Building and foreign wars, allow me to opt out of Social Security, end all subsidies, eliminate DHS and TSA, DOE, EPA, repeal Dodd/Frank, reinstate Glass-Steagall, close Fanny, Freddie, TARP, GE, GM, prosecute Dodd/Frank, Paulson, Gietner, and the CEO’s of GS, JPM, BofA etc., repeal Obamacare, declare all DFL & RINO’s illegal aliens and deport them to Haiti.
That would be a good start.
9-9-9 Explained…
Phase One
Our current economic crisis calls for bold action to truly stimulate the economy and Renew America back to its greatness. The 9-9-9 Plan gets Washington D.C. out of the business of picking winners and losers, using the tax code to dole out favors, and dividing the country with class warfare. It is fair, simple, transparent and efficient. It taxes everything once and nothing twice. It taxes the broadest possible base at the lowest possible rates. It is neutral with respect to savings and consumption,capital and labor, imports and exports and whether companies pay dividends or retain earnings.
9% Business Flat Tax
◦Gross income less all purchases from other U.S. located businesses, all capital investment, and net exports.
◦Empowerment Zones will offer deductions for the payroll of those employed in the zone
9% Individual Flat Tax.
◦Gross income less charitable deductions.
◦Empowerment Zones will offer additional deductions for those living and/or working in the zone.
9% National Sales Tax.
◦Unlike a state sales tax, which is an add-on tax that increases the price of goods and services, this is a replacement tax. It replaces taxes that are already embedded in selling prices. By replacing higher marginal rates in the production process with lower marginal rates, marginal production costs actually decline, which will lead to prices being the same or lower, not higher.
Economic Impact
◦According to former Reagan Treasury official Gary Robbins, of Fiscal Associates, the 9-9-9 Plan will expand GDP by $2 trillion, create 6 million new jobs, increase business investment by one third, and increase wages by 10%.
9-9-9 Plan: Summary
•Removes all payroll taxes and unites all tax payers
•Provides the least incentive to evade taxes and the fewest opportunities to do so
•Lifts a $430 billion dead-weight burden on the economy due to compliance, enforcement, collection, etc…
•Is fair, simple, efficient, neutral, and transparent
•Ends nearly all deductions and special interest favors
•Features zero tax on capital gains and repatriated profits
•Exports leave our shores without the Business Tax or the Sales Tax embedded in their cost, making them world class competitive. Imports are subject to the same taxation as domestically produced goods, leveling the playing field.
•Lowest marginal rates on production
•Kills the Death Tax
•Allows immediate expensing of business investments
•Eliminates double taxation of dividends
•Increases capital formation which aids capital availability for small businesses
•Increased capital per worker drives productivity and wage growth
•Features a platform to launch properly structured Empowerment Zones to renew our inner cities
•The pro-growth, pro-job, pro-export economic policies of the 9-9-9 PLAN equals a strong dollar policy
Phase 2 – The Fair Tax
Amidst a backdrop of the economic renewal created by the 9-9-9 Plan, I will begin the process of educating the American people on the benefits of continuing the next step to the Fair Tax.
•Ultimately replaces individual and corporate income taxes
•Ends the IRS as we know it and repeals the 16th Amendment
I dunno man, Perry has been a solid conservative governor.
His only real issue is immigration, but every single candidate has at least one issue they are glaringly wrong on.
Romney, eh dude his problem isn’t that he’s a Mormon (although the media would like that to be the issue) his problem is that he is as liberal as Obama, the only bloody difference between the two is the letter they stick in front of their name. Romney is only a republican in Massachusetts.
I’d be happy with Cain, Perry or Bachmann
Romney signed an AWB. He is radically anti-gun. I’d vote for Obama first. It has NOTHING to do with his membership in the LDS church. 99% of the Mormons I know are awesome.
Romney’s also a complete nutcase. He has a vacation place on Lake Winnipesaukee, here in NH. He had his security goons set up buoys to create a perimeter so no one could come near the shore around his place. And they would challenge and threaten anyone who tried to cross it. The NH State Police had to threaten to arrest them to get them to stop.
It’s interesting that the governor of NH doesn’t get any security goons, at all. Heck, I’ve seen folks walk up to the “security guard” (easily old enough to be someone’s grandfather) at the State House while openly carrying a gun and ask for directions to the governor’s office. The guard gave him directions, then told him the governor wasn’t in, but was probably in the Speaker’s office, and gave him directions to get there.
High Profile Candidate like Romney needs that security because of lefty fruitbats that want to harrass him. He is the front runner and the security is there for a good reason. As long as the bouy’s don’t take up half the lake, I see no problem with this. These “goones” have a job to do and sounds like they are doing it well.
Glad it pisses you off because your boy is going to be a one term TOTUS.
Notice the past-tense? This was years ago, back when he was governor of the PRM. Hence why I compared him to NH’s governor, not to other candidates.
Sorry, but showing up and blocking off public property without permission is not acceptable. Doesn’t matter if it’s some punk rioter or the governor of Taxachusetts. It’s illegal, and I’d much rather it had happened back when Meldrim Thomson was in office; he would have ordered the lot of them arrested.
Not sure who my “boy” is, though. I’m probably going to write in my daughter, with my son as VP.
Anyone think TOTUS will face a challenge in the DFL primary? Not sure if that would be good or not.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
I might vote for Caine. I will not vote for Perry or Romney. Perry has sold the state of Texas (and our publicly funded roads) to his Spanish friends. The only reason he is Pro-Second is because he knows it pleases his base. As has been pointed out Romney is anti-Second and very pro-big government. I just want a candidate who stands a chance of winning and who wants to shrink the size of government. I think Paul would do this. But, he will never win the general election.
I think Paul would win a GENERAL election handily.
….but, due to the smear job done on him in the media, he has not much chance of winning a PRIMARY.
(Much like Sarah Palin)
Paul’s just about the only one who can defeat Obama. If any of the others win the primary, Obama is almost guaranteed a second term. A primary vote for anyone other than Paul is a vote for Obama…
I can’t vote Romney. Bain Capital is a horrible company, responsible for tons of outsourcing of US jobs (they all but invented it under him), and that is his legacy. A RINO governor if ever there was one, in a state with some of the most jackassery in firearm laws in the country, stupid high taxes, nanny statism and RomneyCare, bleck.
Even if his being Mormon mattered to me (and as a deist Freemason I could not care less how a man goes about his business with his g-d) it would be way below all of the above.
Quite frankly the GOP needs to do better to keep my vote, I’ll take Cain or Paul with some reservations, but they can keep Perry and Romney.
What a field of losers.
Romney: socialized medicine and gun control for his home state.
Perry: Big business selling out for cheap Mexican labor.
Cain: Supports a mother-fucking VAT! ( and I don’t care how much you polish that turd, db. It is still a big stinking turd. )
Paul: Libertarian anti-Israel isolationist.
Palin: quit.
I guess I have to support Cain … if only because his VAT nonsense ain’t going anywhere.
That’s the thing; he’s gotta get it through Congress, and fortunately that will never happen. Personally, I’m only interested in a sales tax (or VAT, or fair tax, or whatever you want to call it) if they repeal the 16th amendment first. As far as I am concerned, that’s a pre-condition. I’d much rather see a flat income tax by itself. The only real answer is to cut the federal government down to where it is only doing the things specifically authorized in the constitution, which will lower taxes in general to the point where the progressive/regressive argument becomes moot. Fat chance of that happening though…
Oh yeah… And at this point, Obama has more of a pro-gun record than Romney, if you look at actual accomplishments. Yeah, I know that’s only because the congress has not stuck an anti-gun bill in front of him, and he signed park carry only because he wanted that “credit reform” bill real bad, but still… There it is.
“So we went to the company, and we said: Look, you can’t have any illegals working on our property. I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake, I can’t have illegals.”
The most honest thing Romney has ever said.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/why-does-ron-paul-scare-you/243987/
They all have flaws and baggage. I’d prefer Cain because he (IMHO) has the least. But I’d vote for any of them against Obama. Of course, I’d hold my nose and vote for Hillary against Obama if those were the only two choices given 🙁
The problem is that right now it’s just about impossible for anyone else to be added to the field, so warts and all we’re going to need to select someone from the current slate. Insisting on “perfect or nothing” is a good way of getting “nothing” every time. Let’s try to get the best possible candidate available from the choices we have – but in the general, hold our nose and vote for the least-bad candidate if the only choices are “bad” and “worse” (see above).
Well yeah. I’d vote for a bucket of s%$& if it was running against Obama, the primary difference being the bucket. And I’ll have to hold my nose almost as much if Romney ends up being the candidate.
Can’t say I agree with everything you’ve ever said George. But this post is about spot on with my feelings about the current candidates.
To add a little, I wonder if it’s really all that important in the end. I’ll vote my conscience in the primaries (likely Cain at this point), but at the end of the day, I pretty much ALREADY voted for whoever the GOP nominee is. I certainly won’t vote for Obama, so that leaves the GOP nominee. Nobody else can win.
If you want to change the game, you do so by playing it, not by bucking it.
That’s a very good point, T.