Now you guys all know that I take Lubrication very seriously and Gundoc and I have studied more on Lubricants than anyone short of a PHD should. We’ve talked to Chemists and Nano Scientists and have studied oils down the Molecular level, and how they act and react with different materials and uses in different applications. That’s what we do… that’s why Slipstream is so bloody good.
Well, this sales rep guy comes in and shows us some stuff from a company called Wasp Sports. It’s called Bore Stinger. It’s a CLP type oil made from Tree Sap and Root Oils, according to the rep. He was kind enough to leave us a couple bottles. Everything I know of tree sap pretty much has nothing to do with Lubrication of small moving metal parts. According the the Sales Guy they take the tree sap and stuff and shock it for 3 days at 30,000 volts or something to “Change the Molecular Structure.” Yeah, that’s what happens to Organic Compounds when they encounter heat… Some people call it cooking. Which is why Crusader doesn’t use organics.
Do you know what happens to tree sap when it gets old? It gets hard and we call it Amber… the only thing Amber is good for is preserving Dino DNA and looking yellow. These are not things you want in your gun, do you?
The Rep made all kinds of claims… A lot of talk about Conditioning, which I still consider something for you Hair, not your Firearm. 10 Micron Penetration into metal. So evidently your metal is like dried pinewood and this stuff soaks in. Yeah, metal doesn’t quite do that, but okay… I’ll listen some more. Then I heard the biggest claim. This stuff will give you a 700FPS increase in Velocity in a 7mm Rem Mag if you treat your bore with it. Really? 700, huh? Not buying that for a second. Well, after the sales rep left, I had to hit their web site. WaspSports.
Their (talking about Native Americans here) secret “recipe” for seasoning weapons was coveted by friends and enemies alike, and the Eastern Natives became known as “Master Metal Seasoners”.
You know, my brother and I have both studied Western History in College… Including Native American Studies. My bro even has his Degree in it. We’ve never heard of that before. Ever.
Well, me being who I am, I had to try it out. 3 guns. I took down 3 different firearms and tried this stuff out. You know, it’s decent stuff for wiping down a gun. Probably because of the Wax Compounds that are most likely what’s in the stuff. But at an oil… I literally felt no difference in these guns – which were bone dry to start with. One gun, a Walther PPK/S, even kinda felt “Not as good” as before and had more of that Zipper sound after using Bore Stinger.
For about the same price as Slipstream… you can either get Bore Stinger… or you can get the best Lubricant known to Science that is absolutely proven in hostile field conditions and in very kenetic environments.
It just kills me when anyone makes a claim about any lube *by itself* giving a boost in velocity.
Just reducing bore friction is a surefire way to get *lower* velocities, because it won’t allow the gunpowder to build pressure as quickly, which reduces the effective burn rate, which further reduces pressure. A handloader can get higher velocities with things like moly-coated bullets, but they’ve got to bump the powder charge significantly to get there. Even then though, a 700 FPS boost is laughable.
It’s like reducing the compression ratio in an engine. By itself it makes things worse, but it does allow you to add a supercharger or turbo and ultimately make more power.
Wait. How did the “Master Metal Seasoners” produce 30,000 volts for 3 days in their long lost, recently recovered recipe???
Because I would *Really* like to know the answer to that question (Yes, I know they didn’t. It’s gettin’ deep in here…)
Yeah, the Sales Rep didn’t mention that… And I would have been afraid of the answer if he had.
Trees hit by lightning? Usually that just produces smoldering bits of tree, but if you have ancient wisdom and peyote, you see a great weapons lube.
30,000 volts is not hard to produce but for 3 days straight, it is. That is a lot of voltage, which is even worse than cooking. As far as I know, organic molecules do not like being cooked at that high a “temperature” or for that long. Now if they had a process that started out with organics and then processed it into something else, ok maybe. That just sounds like BS.
What we found is that after some time, this Bore Stinger turns back into tree sap and binds up your guns pretty dang bad. These guys are so full of it, it’s not even funny.
I think a good market for this oil would be the guys that come in asking for a box of shells and don’t specify the caliber because “their gun shoots ’em all’.
Methinks some of the natural organic compounds in the mix have passed through a bovine digestive system.
Next question I have is whether this sales drone is an honest idiot, really has downed his dose of the Kool-Aid, or is just a shameless snake oil huckster. I suppose the categories may overlap a bit. Odd as it sounds, I’m hoping that he’s just a shameless sales weasel – there’s more than enough stupidity in the world already.
I used this oil today on several different guns. You are better off with WD-40. I’m not impressed at all. In fact, I think this is a very poor product for any application.
Remember that when Mr. Columbus set foot in the New World, the “Master Metal Seasoners” were usinf highly refined, carefully knapped, stone tools. They had not yet developed bronze technology, much less iron or steel.
Last week that buffoon was selling nitrogen systems for filling tires.
I don’t need my metal seasoned. It’s a gun, not a freakin’ steak.
They shock it….I don’t know whether to laugh our puke. No offense to their process. It sounds like they boil the oils out of it…something natives would have done…but don’t remove the oils from the rest of the crap. Just leave it there to dirty up your gun. I think this is just a ploy to the “green” crowd. Someone much have forgotten to tell them the you really don’t fine “green” people in the gun culture. We have too much common sense.
Check this out…
What Bore Stinger Does
Penetrating Lubricant and Metal Conditioner
* Removes Rust
* Increases Velocity
* Tightens Your Pattern
* Drastically reduces Friction
* Enhances Accuracy
* Extends The Life Of Your Equipment
* Lessens Cleaning Of Your Equipment
* Retains The Edge On Your Knives Longer
* Won’t Wash Off
* Embeds Into The Metal 10 Microns
* Smoother Actions and Reels
* Reduces Jamming
* Reduces Heat
* Safe on all surfaces
* Organic
So it increases accuracy….and tightens groups. Am I missing something here? There’s just too many claims here. At least a couple are just repeats.
Just for the helluvit, anybody want to remark on this stuff:
http://www.silverbulletgunoil.net/
Yeah, they don’t use the words “SWINE” and “PIG FAT” nearly enough.
Come one… the most important part of lubrication is LUBRICANT, not Magical Hellfire Damnation Rendered Pork Additives. Uh… and wouldn’t it make more sense to put the Pork Fat int the bullets rather than in your gun lube?
Thanx George, I thought the same thing, but it is kinda funny. Got my bottle of Slipstream, using it as required. Won’t be putting no pig fat in my weapons. May be putting some lead on pigs downrange, it’s possible.
You didn’t answer the obvious question, though. Did it give you +700FPS in a 7mm Rem? Because it could be made out of eye of newt and tiger liver bathed in the light of a full moon and I would still buy some if it upped velocity by 20%.
No, but when applied to a man’s junk it increases in size by 20%.
Thats because it is cancerous.
The 20% increase is malignant.
Jim
I just finished up at there site…. first thought- GAH! THE BULL#%$&*@! IT’S TO THICK!
Second thought- I bet this stuff makes good rat poison…
the bore wasp garbage, not the silver bullet stuff.